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[00:08:54] <visik7> hi
[00:09:09] <visik7> is there a way to convert a part from emule to complete it with torrent ?
[00:09:50] <kjetilho> just make sure the filename is the same
[00:10:04] <kjetilho> (make a copy to be on the safe side)
[00:10:12] <The_8472> assuming emule allocates the full file
[00:10:29] <kjetilho> even if it doesn't, it will work with most clients
[00:10:41] <kjetilho> they will handle shuffled pieces
[00:10:54] <kjetilho> as long as the piece size in emule isn't smaller, of course
[00:10:55] <The_8472> assuming it doesn't do anything odd
[00:11:09] <visik7> so tecnically if it's the same file I can put the .part to replace the partial torrent ?
[00:11:22] <The_8472> probably
[00:11:25] <visik7> from amule to be exactly
[00:11:38] <The_8472> probably
[00:12:18] <DreadWingKnight> emule piece size is 9500kib
[00:14:00] <DreadWingKnight> if you've partly downloaded with torrent already, I'd recommend starting a second client (or second instance at least) to merge rather than replace
[00:15:23] <visik7> the 2 clients are amule and deludge
[00:15:28] <visik7> deluge
[00:15:55] <visik7> it's restarted from 50% where I left it into emule
[00:16:00] <visik7> so it seems it worked
[00:18:13] <visik7> is there a way to check if the checksums matches ?
[00:18:38] <DreadWingKnight> considering that your torrent client validated pieces, they match enough
[00:18:51] <DreadWingKnight> torrent use segmented hash validation similar to ed2k
[00:19:04] <DreadWingKnight> except with smaller segment sizes and a more secure algorithm
[00:20:02] <visik7> I hope :)
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[00:24:52] <visik7> thanks for help see you soon
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[15:49:53] <stiv2k> hey
[15:49:59] <stiv2k> how does encryption work with bittorrent?
[15:50:11] <stiv2k> like if your data is encrypted how do your peers decypher it
[15:50:32] <stiv2k> and does it make you safer from your ISP?
[15:51:55] <The_8472> see http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Message_Stream_Encryption
[15:52:05] <stiv2k> k
[15:52:36] <stiv2k> The_8472: any answer to it in short?
[15:53:04] <The_8472> <stiv2k> how does encryption work with bittorrent? <- read the page
[15:53:14] <The_8472> <stiv2k> and does it make you safer from your ISP? <- depends on your threat model
[15:53:19] <stiv2k> ah
[15:53:27] <stiv2k> dont know what a threat model is
[15:53:32] <stiv2k> i guess i have to read it now :P
[15:53:51] <The_8472> threat model == "safe from what?"
[15:54:14] <stiv2k> oh
[15:54:22] <stiv2k> ok 2 things
[15:54:46] <stiv2k> when im at my apartment im worried about getting raided by the feds (or just being caught by RoadRunner)
[15:55:02] <stiv2k> when im on campus im worried about the university noticing i seed at like 500 KB/s every day using their bandwdith
[15:55:41] <The_8472> encryption does not prevent any of these, although all points are bogus
[15:55:50] <The_8472> a) the feds are not after filesharing, private companies are
[15:56:07] <The_8472> b) roadrunner is not interesting in "catching" you, previously mentioned private companies are
[15:56:27] <The_8472> c) your university will notice that you use bandwidth on _something_ either way, they just might not notice it's bittorrent
[15:56:43] <stiv2k> ive received letters in the mail from comcast indicating exact time and filename of a movie i downloaded
[15:56:48] <stiv2k> saying that "they know whats going on"
[15:56:56] <The_8472> you did not
[15:57:09] <The_8472> comcast just forwarded a latter from said companies
[15:57:14] <stiv2k> oh
[15:57:17] <The_8472> *letter
[15:57:18] <stiv2k> thats interesting, The_8472
[15:57:41] <stiv2k> so does encryption or use of PeerGuardian help me at all in this situation
[15:57:57] <The_8472> a) no b) probably not
[15:58:24] <The_8472> but all that would have been answered by reading the page instead of bugging me
[15:58:29] <stiv2k> yea
[15:58:38] <stiv2k> im reading it but my attention is diverted
[15:58:41] * stiv2k is in a lecture
[15:59:04] <stiv2k> The_8472: so, what do you think people should do to curb their fear of being sued
[15:59:12] <stiv2k> just stop downloading i guess?
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[15:59:33] <The_8472> a) vote for the pirate party, they promote copyright reform
[15:59:39] <The_8472> b) lobby your congressman
[15:59:44] <The_8472> c) don't download illegal stuff
[15:59:50] <stiv2k> pirate party?
[15:59:55] <The_8472> d) live with the rest like everyone else
[16:00:12] <The_8472> http://www.pirate-party.us/
[16:00:44] <stiv2k> i guess what i'm asking is: is there anything that one *shouldn't* do that could potentially raise a red flag to anyone (private companies) trying to catch you
[16:01:25] <The_8472> there is, but that would involve discussion of warez, which is offtopic
[16:02:19] <stiv2k> ok
[16:02:31] <uau> stiv2k: if you download (or otherwise share) privately with people you know from other contexts that will be relatively safe
[16:02:40] <stiv2k> anywhere else i could go for further reading/info ?
[16:02:58] <stiv2k> uau: are you talking about private trackers? or just like limited 1-1 file transfers
[16:03:17] <uau> limited file transfers
[16:03:25] <stiv2k> i see
[16:03:36] <stiv2k> private trackers arent any safer than public trackers?
[16:03:52] <uau> if you're at university there will probably be other people interested in the same things
[16:04:06] <uau> no need for everyone to download from public sources separately
[16:04:36] <stiv2k> yeah
[16:04:59] <stiv2k> how do you discover private sources with bittorrent
[16:05:07] <stiv2k> The_8472: what about bittorrent + tor ?
[16:05:30] <The_8472> that is frowned upon since the tor network doesn't have tons of bandwidth
[16:05:45] <stiv2k> right
[16:05:46] <The_8472> unless you'd run a tor node yourself, offering significant bandwidth
[16:05:56] <stiv2k> but technically that makes you anonymous right
[16:05:59] <The_8472> if everyone did that one could talk about it
[16:06:10] <The_8472> technically, yes
[16:07:22] <stiv2k> cool
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[18:15:21] <The_8472> and once again i come to the conclusion that one of the strokes of genius bram had was making torrent creation complicated :)
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[18:34:34] <DreadWingKnight> The_8472: because it weeds out the idiots?
[18:35:17] <TheSHAD0W> Because it was meant as a distribution tool for content creators.
[18:35:31] <DreadWingKnight> that too
[18:38:30] <The_8472> well, DreadWingKnight's point is more along my line of reasoning
[19:14:53] <TheSHAD0W> Partnership/Assistance!
[19:14:58] <TheSHAD0W> Greetings of the day to you, although you may
[19:14:59] <TheSHAD0W> be skeptical receiving this email as we have not met before, I am Mr.
[19:14:59] <TheSHAD0W> Lile Song,(Deputy executive Director and Chief Financial Officer)
[19:14:59] <TheSHAD0W> of the Hang Seng Bank Ltd.
[19:15:04] <TheSHAD0W> Nevertheless I have a business proposition involving
[19:15:05] <TheSHAD0W> the sum of $24,500,000.00usd in my bank which I know will be of mutual
[19:15:05] <TheSHAD0W> benefit  to both of us, and I believe we can handle together, once we
[19:15:05] <TheSHAD0W> have a common understanding and mutual cooperation in the execution of
[19:15:05] <TheSHAD0W> the modalities.
[19:16:11] <DreadWingKnight> good old nigerian scam
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[19:16:43] <The_8472> yes, some people actually do make money with those emails
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[21:00:59] <Stephenh> hi
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[22:22:34] <stiv2k> hey so how can i view which connections i have open are encrypted and which ones arent?
[22:23:03] <DreadWingKnight> what client?
[22:23:08] <stiv2k> i dont see anything that stands out in ethereal (compared to behavior when using SSH tunnels) so how do i know if the encryption is actually working
[22:23:20] <stiv2k> azureus 3.0.4.2
[22:23:35] <stiv2k> im thinking of switching to utorrent
[22:23:36] <DreadWingKnight> there should be a flag to show encryption in the peerlist
[22:23:46] <stiv2k> DreadWingKnight: where at?
[22:23:54] <The_8472> peers view
[22:24:01] <The_8472> encryption column
[22:24:30] <stiv2k> i do not see an encryption column...
[22:25:17] <The_8472> you have to enabled it -.-
[22:25:39] <The_8472> if all columns where enabled by default you'd need one of those ultra-ultra-ultra wide screens ^^
[22:25:52] <stiv2k> i have encryption enabled
[22:26:10] <The_8472> .....
[22:26:11] <The_8472> the column
[22:26:20] <The_8472> rightclick -> column setup
[22:26:39] <stiv2k> ohh nice
[22:32:26] <The_8472> and btw, if you enable the bittorrent disector in wireshark and follow a connection from the start on then wireshark will identify it as bittorrent if it's unencrypted
[22:32:36] <The_8472> iff you follow the connection from the start on
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[23:18:39] <stiv2k> damn
[23:18:47] <stiv2k> a lot more people use transport encryption than i thought..

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