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[01:15:30] <thewird_> hey DeHackEd, anything we can see yet :)
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[01:25:27] <firefly2442> what's he working on?
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[02:44:41] <DeHackEd> what sane OS doesn't install screen?
[02:44:57] <thewird_> yum install screen
[02:45:03] <DeHackEd> I know
[02:45:07] <DeHackEd> same question
[02:45:22] <thewird_> not needed most of the time
[02:45:30] <thewird_> and can be installed quickly if needed
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[02:50:54] <thewird_> btw, its available on the install DVD but these are server installs with a basic install
[02:51:20] <DeHackEd> I do net installs because I'm a pansy and it saves bandwidth overall...
[02:51:37] <thewird_> lol
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[02:51:44] <thewird_> i install my VPS's with net installs
[02:52:12] <thewird_> less load to stream it then to install from an ISO
[02:52:56] * DeHackEd installs various mysql packages
[02:55:18] <thewird_> :)
[02:55:36] <thewird_> i could have installed cpanel if it was gonna be that much of a hassle
[02:55:52] <DeHackEd> no, I need mysql support in python, for example
[02:56:05] <DeHackEd> and yum handles everything just fine as long as I have a package listing handy
[02:56:14] <thewird_> :)
[02:59:22] <DeHackEd> well, I think that's the ROUGH outline for it...
[03:02:25] <DeHackEd> hello?
[03:02:35] <thewird_> hi
[03:02:36] <thewird_> ?
[03:03:00] <DeHackEd> I sent you stuff
[03:03:05] <thewird_> you did?
[03:03:15] <thewird_> i got nothing
[03:07:14] <thewird_> is there anything special about admin?
[03:08:33] <DeHackEd> it's supposed to be able to control the torrents of other users
[03:08:51] <thewird_> supposed to being the key word right :)
[03:09:11] <DeHackEd> it's not perfect. but it will start clients on demand and report on progress
[03:09:40] <thewird_> i uploaded a torrent with user1
[03:09:44] <thewird_> its still queued
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[03:11:00] <thewird_> was torrentlist.php the only link you send me?
[03:11:04] <thewird_> *sent
[03:12:13] <DeHackEd> yeah
[03:12:21] <thewird_> how do i start the torrents :P
[03:12:30] <DeHackEd> it was not started because no appropriate download machine was found. the only one was not set up correctly; it thinks the disk is full
[03:13:04] <thewird_> fun
[03:13:09] <thewird_> so what to do
[03:13:10] <thewird_> ?
[03:13:34] <DeHackEd> fix the database. it was my fault
[03:13:39] <DeHackEd> it's been dispatched to machine "1" now
[03:13:49] <DeHackEd> it's started
[03:14:02] <thewird_> hurray :)
[03:14:14] <thewird_> btw
[03:14:24] <thewird_> what type of limits did you set for the client?
[03:15:07] <thewird_> the upload speed is wrong
[03:15:14] <thewird_> its not doing 16000 kb/s
[03:15:15] <thewird_> :P
[03:15:33] <DeHackEd> currently none. it's a launchmany client that writes its stats to a database. it takes parameters from the command-line, and some settings are controlled by the master (like number of clients)
[03:15:39] <DeHackEd> it's doing 7000
[03:15:43] <DeHackEd> 11000
[03:16:11] <thewird_> not what iptraf says but oh well
[03:16:11] <DeHackEd> 14000
[03:16:31] <DeHackEd> this thing on gigabit?
[03:16:45] <thewird_> no not this one
[03:17:52] <DeHackEd> I think that's amount, not rate....
[03:18:05] <thewird_> that would explain it :P
[03:18:18] <DeHackEd> using my calculator, I estimate the file size as 174 MB
[03:18:19] <thewird_> its doing about 10 mbps upload according to iptraf
[03:18:29] <thewird_> sounds right
[03:19:02] <DeHackEd> this would be the reseed ratio control, which is handled by the manager. either when enough time elapses after finishing or the desired ratio is reached, it can be killed.
[03:19:30] <thewird_> i was thinking 2-4 seed ratio would keep the trackers happy
[03:20:28] * DeHackEd uses iftop for his bandwidth measuring. crude but effective.
[03:20:51] <thewird_> dear lord
[03:21:54] <DeHackEd> ?
[03:22:17] <thewird_> tells you connections
[03:22:31] <DeHackEd> there's summaries at the bottom
[03:22:49] <DeHackEd> though the ASCII needs to be changed...
[03:23:42] <thewird_> The requested URL /gettorrent.php was not found on this server.
[03:23:45] <thewird_> :(
[03:24:52] <DeHackEd> yeah that's a problem...
[03:25:08] <thewird_> is that lacking of gettorrent.php ?
[03:25:22] <thewird_> or you forgot to upload it?
[03:27:23] <DeHackEd> it's lacking. there was some issue with regard to finding the file to retrieve over multiple networks...
[03:27:33] <DeHackEd> I can't necessarily just fopen the file and fpassthru it
[03:28:10] <DeHackEd> install samba? :)
[03:29:18] <thewird_> hmm
[03:29:30] <thewird_> samba is?
[03:29:35] <DeHackEd> windows filesharing
[03:29:42] <thewird_> oh god
[03:29:42] <DeHackEd> app that implements
[03:29:55] <thewird_> you need some IP's for those virtual machines?
[03:30:15] <DeHackEd> other options are NFS, maybe some FUSE app (I like sshfs for personal use), and a few i've never tried before. I don't like nfs personally.
[03:32:24] <thewird_> well when this goes into production it would be getting it off another server
[03:32:43] <thewird_> im not sure how your virtual machines are setup without IP's
[03:32:52] <thewird_> did you create a LAN?
[03:33:30] <DeHackEd> ..?
[03:33:43] <thewird_> you did create virtual machines didn't you?
[03:33:56] <DeHackEd> not really.
[03:34:05] <thewird_> oh
[03:34:17] <DeHackEd> my virtual machines create /dev/net/tun devices which the host machine uses IP forwarding/routing to get traffic around
[03:34:47] <thewird_> ic
[03:34:58] <DeHackEd> same idea for vmware, I use host-only networking and use routing. this gives me easy administration, firewalling, etc. lots of devices, but I can monitor anything easily.
[03:36:04] <DeHackEd> bedtime... I gotta get up early again and all that
[03:36:13] <thewird_> right
[03:36:19] <thewird_> alright thanks
[03:36:52] <DeHackEd> my idea for gettorrent is that it will be a URL with two numbers -- the first is the torrent number and the second is the file number for batch torrents. then you can specify the filename and the browser will save with it using PATH_INFO data
[03:37:04] <DeHackEd> eg   gettorrnet.php/$torrnetid/$filenumber/filename.ext
[03:37:25] <DeHackEd> and the browser will save as filename.ext while apache will run gettorrent.php with all the info passed as $_SERVER["PATH_INFO"]
[03:38:06] <DeHackEd> sleep!
[03:38:19] <thewird_> night
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[03:53:53] <firefly2442> sounds exciting :)
[03:54:03] <thewird_> it will be when its finished
[03:54:40] <firefly2442> is it a PHP BT client?
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[03:55:20] <thewird_> think of a public torrentflux that scales across a few hundred servers
[03:55:50] <firefly2442> Wow, so the really popular files are readily available and seeded?
[03:56:19] <thewird_> ready to download
[03:56:25] <thewird_> via httpd
[03:56:37] <firefly2442> cool
[03:56:53] <thewird_> :)
[03:57:05] <firefly2442> GPL?
[03:57:35] <thewird_> that would defeat the purpose
[03:57:52] <firefly2442> don't you want more people to join as servers though?
[03:58:04] <thewird_> oh thats a possibility
[03:58:20] <thewird_> but the main workings would be closed
[03:59:27] <firefly2442> so people pay for a super-fast server w/lots of bandwidth that they can d/l torrents and then grab em via httpd
[04:00:03] <thewird_> there will be a free service and a paid service
[04:00:30] <thewird_> but thats basically the idea
[04:00:37] <thewird_> the popular stuff will be cached
[04:00:43] <thewird_> so will be instantly available
[04:01:04] <firefly2442> cool idea, sort of like a global torrent distribution thing
[04:01:37] <firefly2442> I could see some legal issues with it but...
[04:01:43] <firefly2442> people abusing it and such
[04:03:01] <thewird_> yah we're planning for that as well
[04:03:12] <firefly2442> well gl, bedtime for me, later ;)
[04:03:16] <thewird_> thanks
[04:38:52] <TheSHAD0W> http://gizmodo.com/342920/holy-crap-did-bill-gates-just-say-windows-sucks?!??!
[04:41:37] <thewird_> out of context clips ftw
[04:53:48] <thewird_> "This thing is neither, it's basically a big billboard from Panasonic saying "Our Dick is Bigger Than Sharp's Dick," and because we on the internet love pictures of over-the-top things, we shoot our loads all over it. Fuck the 150-inch TV."
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[10:39:22] <mosno> i have a regular lan-to-internet home setup with a linux-based router/gatway and a linux desktop machine. i was planning to do regular portforwarding to a static IP for the desktop, but what i want to do is AUTHENTICATE the desktop machine's identity and then pipe (proxy?) the bittorent traffic to it. what software exists if any to implement this?
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[12:18:50] <DreadWingKnight> mosno: it would probably be easier to get a UPnP system going on your linux box
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