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[01:14:10] <kjetilho> http://davisfreeberg.com/2008/01/03/bad-copp-no-netflix/
[01:15:39] <DeHackEd> the system is down
[01:15:40] <DeHackEd> (tm)
[01:15:50] <The_8472> one more reason for piracy...
[01:17:59] <DeHackEd> I mean it doesn't load
[01:18:02] <The_8472> but seriously, that's why i don't buy stuff unless the DRM has been broken or is not there in the first place
[01:21:54] <kjetilho> DeHackEd: a guy connected a new HD monitor to his Vista, and lost access to Netflix
[01:22:37] <kjetilho> DeHackEd: the suggested fix is to reset/revoke all DRM licences on his computer (only Microsoft's and Netflix' will survive)
[01:23:29] <The_8472> the irony is that connecting the HD monitor prevented playing SD videos, which display just fine (at full res) on non-HD monitors...
[01:23:48] <DeHackEd> that's f**ked up
[01:23:54] <The_8472> but using non HDCP-compliant HD monitors triggers all kind of secure-video-path crap on vista
[01:31:16] <DeHackEd> oh, hey, it made slashdot
[01:31:22] <DeHackEd> I guess that explains the site not loading
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[02:18:52] <danomac> yeah, i saw it on slashdot and tried to load the site
[02:19:03] <danomac> still not working, though now it's asking for a username/password >_>
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[03:01:40] <chovy> is it common to have ratio limits from seeders?
[03:03:03] <chovy> seems my D/L rate slows when I limit my U/L rate only.
[03:04:13] <chovy> it i limit u/l to 10kb i get max about 20kb d/l...if I raise it 20kb on the u/l limit, i get around 60kb on the d/l.
[03:11:29] <uau> not that common with seeders, but uploading more to those who upload back is the standard behavior for non-seed peers
[03:15:11] <chovy> k
[03:15:39] <chovy> thanks.
[03:16:26] <chovy> what's a good ratio to use that will get me good speeds on d/l?
[03:17:49] <uau> short-term speeds are usually not about ratio
[03:18:20] <uau> but depend more on how fast you're currently uploading (and have been uploading during the last few minutes)
[03:19:23] <chovy> k
[03:19:48] <chovy> not sure but i set mine to 100kb down and 25kb up
[03:20:26] <uau> why did you set a download speed limit?
[03:20:26] <chovy> and throttling, set it to 10kb down, 20kb up
[03:20:44] <uau> or is that the line speed you used for some automatic configuration tool?
[03:21:02] <chovy> no, i set it.
[03:21:40] <uau> what's the 10 kB number then?
[03:22:02] <chovy> that is speed limiting.
[03:22:08] <chovy> like during day
[03:22:13] <chovy> 10 down, 20 up
[03:22:24] <chovy> at night, 100 down, 25 up
[03:23:21] <chovy> i guess i'm setting night limits w/ the theory that unlimited uploading is crimping my d/l speed.
[03:23:32] <chovy> (this could be completely misunderstood by me)
[03:24:35] <uau> yes you should set an upload speed limit somewhat lower than the maximum capacity of your connection
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[08:34:13] <sarah> is it currently possible to circumvent sandvine?
[08:34:39] <sarah> guessing no since it sends the termination packet to them too, maybe if you had your client change ports every so often or something?
[08:38:02] <alus> we have some techniques
[08:38:34] <sarah> oreally :?)
[08:38:53] <sarah> i COULD get ATT dsl also, but ill bet the upload sucks on that
[08:38:54] <alus> yes.
[08:39:03] <sarah> what would you reccomend?
[08:39:10] <alus> depends on the package. I have DSL, it's not so great
[08:39:16] <sarah> what are those techniques?
[08:39:21] <sarah> thx btw
[08:39:32] <alus> oh, they're in alpha right now
[08:39:40] <sarah> ah thats okay
[08:39:45] <alus> but essentially, sandvine can't screw up a protocol it can't speak
[08:40:10] <sarah> but that would mean not bittorrent right
[08:55:55] <alus> well no, it's bittorrent
[08:56:02] <alus> but each client would need to support it
[08:56:04] <alus> like encryption
[09:01:44] <The_8472> sarah, does it affect seeding?
[10:45:07] <sarah> The_8472: you CANT seed at all
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[15:17:19] <Krestovik> " This is not a file distribution channel" But where i can download files ?
[15:17:36] <kjetilho> who knows?
[15:17:38] <kjetilho> Google knows!
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[16:28:55] <Krestovik> http://shop.ecompanystore.com/mseventdvd/MSD_productdetail.asp?EventID=8 any one know where i can download some of thouse ?
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[22:43:58] <TheSHAD0W> http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jan2008/tc2008013_398775.htm
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